Mark Asquith, That British Podcast Guy & Co-Founder of Captivate.fm

The Future of Podcast SEO Now That Google Is Here to Stay?

A thought exercise.

Back in “the day”, I used to work a fair bit in search engine optimisation (SEO) with my digital agency and I remember the good, the bad and the ugly.

The bottom line is: we all know how valuable well optimised and high-quality content is on our website and we all know, too, how shady some of the tactics can be and how, erm… questionable, some of the SEO peddlers out there in the world can be, too.

Did podcasting just enter that world in earnest?

I’m lucky enough to have spent some time with the Google Podcasts team over the last year or so, at Voicecon, Harvard and most recently at RAIN’s Podcast Business Summit back in March this year.

During any time that I’ve spent with Zack, the Google Podcasts product lead or one of his team, I’ve enjoyed talking and exploring with them the possibilities that Google’s heavy interest in podcasts brings to the market and with their audacious goal of “doubling podcast listening” being both ambitious and exciting, one begins to wonder how the might of Google’s eco-system could affect podcast discoverability and overall listenership for the long-term.

During RAIN’s summit in March, Zack told the audience about Google’s “backend” transcription which essentially takes your audio, transcribes it on the backend (i.e., not giving you the physical transcription) and then uses that transcription to make your audio searchable – the current status of its rollout is uncertain, depending on where and how you look, however, this isn’t something that’s far away in the worst case.

Last week, Google’s rollout of its most recent feature brought online something else interesting: in-page podcast players are now present in Google’s search engine results pages (SERPs) which is to say that if you search for a podcast, you’re not only shown the podcast’s website but a list of playable episodes directly within your results.

This got me thinking about the future and in particular, what this could mean for podcast SEO over the next few months, years, decades.

We know that there’s a podcast discoverability challenge. We know that many companies are trying to solve this, from the 37,563 “Netflix of Podcasting” companies that spring up every 25 minutes, to Spotify trialling podcast recommendations based on your music preferences and listening behaviours.

My gut tells me that Apple will do something in this space this year, too and that probably over the next year, Facebook will do something very specific with spoken word audio.

But Google holds a unique position: for many people, it is the “homepage” of the Internet. Disagree with that if you will, but ultimately even if that isn’t the case, it’s the first place that the vast majority of us go to search for, well, anything.

Put together the two features that I describe above and we can begin to plot a course for Google’s podcasting ambitions; the thought both excites me and scares me, in equal measure.

First, the “good”:

Note: my zippers are fine.

Now, the potential “bad and ugly”:

These are just my initial thoughts. There’s so much more to consider here and I’m sure Google is considering all of these points, they’re a very smart bunch of people and Zack’s team seems to be genuinely interested in furthering the podcast industry in a positive manner.

What say you?

I did a special bonus podcast episode that dives a bit deeper on this, too. Have a listen on Spotify.

Cheers,
Mark